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Tuesday, May 13, 2008

oh, where to begin...

Oh, where to begin...

So I met with the psychiatrist today. Let me start by saying he was a complete jackass, and he's foreign and I kept having to have him repeat himself because I could not understand him.

When I first got in there, he asked why I was there. I said that I have been depressed for over 10 years, have anxiety problems, and suffer from Borderline Personality Disorder. I said that I'm Seroquel which is making me gain weight and I need to be on some other medicine that doesn't make me gain weight that actually makes me less depressed.

After everything was said and done what did he tell me? I needed to be taken off Seroquel and put on another medicine that doesn't make me gain weight and makes me less depressed. Did I really need to pay him over $200 to hear him repeat exactly what I told him?

He asked me all the usual questions about my history with depression, about the self-harm, about my past suicide attempts (surprisingly he didn't ask if I was currently suicidal, which personally I think is really messed up), about my family's history with depression, etc.

He had me talk about all the medications I've been on. I guess I was supposed to keep a record of exactly when I was on specific medicines with specific dosages. How am I supposed to remember how much Zoloft I was on when I was 16? That was 10 years ago!

He asked about all the medications my family has been on. I'm sorry, but I don't go around asking my relatives what anti-depressants they're on. Yes, I know a lot of them take anti-depressants, but it's none of my business if they're on Effexor or Zoloft or anything else. I mean I understand why he asked because I know if something works for my mom, it may work for me because of a similar genetic makeup, but still it's none of my business.

One thing I thought was really fucked up was when he asked how long I was married, he automatically asked "So you decided not to have kids?" Does every couple have to have kids right after they're married? I know tons of couples who are married a lot longer than 4 years when they decide to have kids. Anyways, I had to explain to him that we had been trying to get pregnant for the last 4 years, but my husband has a low sperm count so it just hasn't happened yet. Then he asked, "well why haven't you tried other methods?" Frankly, what did that have to do with why I was there? I should have just shut him up by saying we decided to get a dog instead of trying expensive methods of getting pregnant.

Then he went through the depression/anxiety questionnaire that I had to fill out. One question he asked flat out was about my disinterest in sex. He asked how long it had been since we had sex and if it was due to my lack of interest, his lack of interest, or both. I guess he automatically assumed if my husband had a low sperm count that he doesn't have much interest in sex. I don't have a problem discussing sex with most people, but a middle-aged foreign man that I can barely understand isn't really someone I want to discuss that with. I think just asking if I had a low sex drive would have been enough.

He asked about my Borderline diagnosis. Then asked which of the symptoms I had, which I told him. He agreed with the diagnosis.

He decided to take me off Seroquel. He put me on Effexor, which I've been on before and it worked so-so. He told me to cut my Lexapro in half, and he added Xanax, which I've also been on before and it worked really good. I have to go back in two weeks from now and he's going to add Topamax at that time. Another thing that really bothered me was when we were discussing Xanax. I told him when I was on it, it gave me severe constipation, and he quickly said, "Xanax doesn't do that." I'm sorry, but I think I know my body better than some medical book. We'll see how things go this time around with the Xanax.

Concerning the Seroquel... he told me just to quit it cold turkey. WTF? Everyone I've heard from that has taken it has said that it was hell coming off of. Shouldn't I be tapering off it? My normal doctor would be tapering me off it. I'm not going to risk the withdrawals. I'm going to go ahead and taper off it.

He said he wanted to put me in an inpatient facility for 2-3 weeks to get my medicine right. I said no flat out. If my normal doctor had said that, I might have considered it, but I don't like this guy. I'm not going to let him lock me up, especially when the paperwork for my job says that I have to go back Monday or my job could be terminated.

I asked him if he could fill out the paperwork for my job. He said one of his staff members would fill it out and he'd sign it, then the staff would mail it. So I won't have any idea what is written on the form. I just had to drop it off with the receptionist. It bothers me that I won't have any idea what they write on it. It also bothers me that they charged me $20 just to fill it out. What the hell? I should have had my normal doctor do it. He would have done it for free.

My husband took copies of the paperwork with him to his anger management group tonight and showed the doctor who teaches the group. (Is that what you call it? Teaches? Maybe it's better to say he "leads" the group. Anyways, that doesn't matter.) He told my husband that the laws have changed here in Oklahoma concerning sick leave. Apparently anytime you take off anymore, you have to give them specific medical reasons, so my mental health is not really protected now. I told my husband to ask the doctor next week for a recommendation for a psychiatrist. Maybe I can find one I can actually understand when he/she talks.

Speaking of my husband... We slept in different rooms last night and will probably for all the nights in the foreseeable future. I have severe issues sleeping on our bed anymore. I can't get comfortable, so I lose a lot of sleep. I already have enough trouble sleeping, I don't need anything to add to it. So I'm sleeping on the futon in my office. Yeah, so futons suck, but I find it more comfortable than our bed. Maybe after I get off the Seroquel, I'll be back to normal sleeping habits. Ever since I got increased to 300 mg of Seroquel, I haven't been able to sleep right.

I got an email today from someone at Shades of Grey thanking me for joining the website. The person made a point I hadn't thought about. She/he said maybe I could get Oreo certified as an assistance dog for my anxiety and take him to work with me. I love that idea, but I'm not sure Oreo is smart enough or calm enough to be an assistance dog. He's hyper all the time, so I doubt he could sit there through eight hours of work, plus a couple of my coworkers are allergic to dogs, so that would be an issue. Anyways it was a nice thought. (BTW I did get my BPD awareness bracelet from Shades of Grey the other day. I can't remember if I posted that I got it.)

Now onto less pleasant things (I know, less pleasant than my bitching about the psychiatrist?)... I keep getting emails and comments from people who read 1-3 blog entries and think they know me. I know by having this blog I open myself up to criticism, and I can accept it, but people really need to get their facts straight before they decide to criticize my life. Someone recently posted a comment saying I was crazy for thinking I could sue my company when I've just been self-diagnosed with Borderline, and then the person posted an entry in their own blog going off about people who self-diagnose themselves with stuff. I guess since they only probably read the "Reintroducing myself" post and one or two more that they haven't read that I got diagnosed by a doctor and that diagnosis was backed up by a counselor and a psychologist. Anyways, I got my diagnosis today from the psychiatrist, so that doesn't matter anymore. I just think that people should read alot more of my blog before they make assumptions. I don't go onto their blogs, read two entries, then preach to them what they should or shouldn't do.

I also had someone assume since my thyroid test came back with a problem that my thyroid must be causing my depression. I was diagnosed with severe depression when I was 16, which was 10 years ago. My thyroid has been tested at least 8 times in those 10 years, and this is the first test that came back bad. Somehow it just doesn't add up that my thyroid is causing my depression.

For some reason I guess people come onto here and read the "Reintroducing myself" post and think they know me. That post is to introduce my issues. It in no means describes my entire life. If that's the only post you read, you're missing a lot of facts.

Ok, so that was a massively long post. If anyone makes it clear to the end I'll be shocked. :D

20 comments:

Michelle (The Beartwinsmom) said...

Be shocked- I read the whole thing and it is totally coherent. :-) I'm sorry you had to deal with a psych that was frustrating to no end. I hope your doc can steer you in the direction of someone who can help.

And as for quitting an antidepressant cold turkey? I would be very careful about that. I just got off my Prozac after being on that for 2 years, and I had to do the weaning off phase. I'm on Cymbalta now, and (knock on wood) no wacky withdrawl effects from Prozac.

I wish I could just drive down to OKC and start slapping sense into some people for you. Depression is hard enough to deal without being frustrated.

Jena said...

I feel so bad that you had to deal with a pdoc that seemed like a total headcase himself. I am heated about these issues FOR YOU. Even about what you said about the comments you've received. Even about how you're work is treating you. Hang in there sweets, i know you're going through an incredibly tough time, but try to hold on to the faith the best you can. I'll keep you in my prayers.

Jena said...
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Jena said...

In the land of the blogs, one might consider a few things before advice giving- a friendly word :)

http://jenalexa.blogspot.com/2008/04/
walking-in-your-old-shoes.html

Michelle (The Beartwinsmom) said...

Point taken, Jena. I popped over to your blog. You are an excellent writer. Sorry, BPD, if I stepped on your toes.

BPD in OKC said...

Michelle, It's not you that I have issues with.

Ant said...

I had a friend that saw 5 different psychiatrists before they found one that worked for them. So don't give up on them yet.

Hang on in there kiddo. We're rooting for you.

Suzanne said...

How can you say this pyschiatrist sucks and then you say he agrees with your BPD diagnosis?

I'm sorry but that is total bollocks. When I was diagnosed it took hours of questioning by a psychiatrist affiliated with a university which is at the forefront of BPD research. You can't diagnose BPD in 20 minutes. furthermore I saw you didn't feel the need to talk to your psychiatrist about your Thyroid.

I'm sorry if this is harsh but blogs like this don't help mental health awareness at ALL!

Maybelline Jones said...

Possibly good news - when I was on Topomax, I lost a lot of weight. I was probably at my all-time skinniest point while taking that drug.

Just a little ray of sunshine!

Hang in there.

Simone_T said...

High five for Topamax and losing weight. That's about the only thing it did for me. Good luck! You're in the trough right now, but there is light. Just hang in there! :-)

Bon Dobbs said...

Hi,

It's Bon.

I saw this in your blog:

"We'll see how things go this time around with the Xanax."

I just posted a "challenge" about benzo abuse and one of the things I have noticed with my wife (and with studies) is that Xanax can cause MAJOR impulsively and dyscontrol. My wife has done some really impulsive and risky things on Xanax. Her doctor switched her to Ativan, which is a bit better, but she still abuses benzos.

Have you experienced impulsively and dyscontrol on Xanax? Does it concern you? Can you take the prescribed dose? (I have found MANY people on my list whose loved ones with BPD over-medicate, including my wife). How do you manage it?

I'm really interested to hear from you because I have had problems with this in the past (and currently actually) and I'm looking for a solution.

Thanks!
Bon

Bon Dobbs said...

One more thing about the thyroid. My wife also had thyroid issues for years, swinging wildly from hypo to hyper. If you do have hypo that could contribute to your weight gain. But I found this on the net, which covers both Xanax and thyroid issues:

"No medication should be given without proper medical supervision. This is particularly true for the drugs used to treat the borderline disorder. Some medicines make the symptoms of borderline worse, especially amitryptilline (Elavil) and alprazolam (Xanax). Possibly a third of borderlines may suffer from low thyroid (hypothyroidism) - despite a normal 'TSH' blood test. They may need to take thyroid medication."

(From biologicalunhappiness)

I think I read somewhere else that many people with BPD have thyroid ANTI-BODIES in their blood stream. I'll have to dig that up. The long and the short of it - thyroid issues seem to be pretty common and perhaps CAN be the driving force behind depression, etc. I hope treating the thyroid issue helps!

P.J. said...

You said your thyroid is actually high, not low, right?? Here are just a few of the symptoms, taken from about.com

- I am having difficulty getting to sleep, staying asleep, or going back to sleep after awakening in the middle of the night
- I feel fatigued, exhausted
- I am having trouble conceiving a baby
- I feel depressed

I am in NO WAY saying that hyperthyroidism is your reason for having ANY of these things, but it is interesting. That's all.

This post sure makes me nervous about going to my first psychiatrisy app. I wish it would have went better for you. This guy obviously didn't realize that he makes horrible first impressions. He sounds like the Dr. in Patch Adams who works in the Mental Health Facility. :)

I'm praying these new meds work for you. EVERYONE reacts differently. And, if it doesn't work, find the combination that does, and don't settle for anything less. YOU ARE TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!

P.S. I lost weight on Topamax, too.

Tori said...

When they put me on my current meds I literally said "I have enough issues with body dysmorphia. If you put me on something that will make me gain wait, I won't take it or my bulimia will get a trillion times worse." So they found something that doesn't make me gain weight. When depression meds make people who are sensitive to weight gain gain weight, I don't think they could possibly be helpful.

If you don't like your psych find a new one. Having a psych you trust and can depend on changes everything.

Also, the issue with people thinking they know you is one of the main reasons I don't have a post explaining my issues. Because I think that having something up there like that just makes people see the issues and not the person. We have issues but we aren't defined by those issues.

Stephanie said...

Getting off Serouqual cold turkey is really messed up, especially getting off 300 mg of it! I've always had to taper off. I also found it creepy about the doctor asking about why you don't have kids. Why is that any of his business. Imean, I can understand the sex drive question becasue it is a side effect, but he seemed to be all up in your business. Really weird.

BPD in OKC said...

You know Suzanne, that is exactly what I mean by people jumping to conclusions. Yes I mentioned the thyroid to the psychiatrist. He agreed with me that it probably wasn't a cause of my depression since it is just recently abnormal. I told him I was on medicine for it, and we moved on. I didn't feel that it was very significant so I didn't write about it. Just because I don't write about something it doesn't mean I didn't do it. You can't jump to the conclusion that I left it out.

Also where did I say I was in the office for 20 minutes? I was in there for a lot longer than that. If I was in there for 20 minutes, the guy wouldn't have been able to piss me off as much as he did. We went over the criteria and he asked a bunch of questions about Borderline. I just didn't feel like going through all that shit 'cuz I talk about it every day. Just because I didn't write about you, you jump to the conclusion he just said "Ok you're borderline" and moved on. He made sure I fit the borderline "profile" before he agreed with the diagnosis.

Use your brain a little before you start going off at me. Maybe I don't share every single bit of every single day. I'm sure you would leave little things out you don't feel is important.

Wandering Coyote said...

First of all - DO NOT GO COLD TURKEY OF SEROQUEL. That was shit advice to say the least. Wean off gradually by 25mg/day, which is what I was told to do by my psychiatrist AND my GP last month when I changed meds. If you are having trouble at that rate, then go down 25mg every second day. It's the safest way, esp. because you were on such a high dose.

Second of all...Man, I don't even know where to begin...

If you can get the time off - and I have to agree that leaving the paperwork with the receptionist and paying $20 wouldn't have been something that I'd have agreed with at all, but in this case, what are you going to do? - I would take the inpatient option. I have had 8 hospitalizations in my time, some very long (13 weeks ) some short (a weekend) and everything in between, but if you know what you're going in for, it's not a bad idea to have that 24 hour support when you're going off one med and onto another. That's just my 2 cents.

Effexor will definitely constipate you and dry your mouth out. As for the Xanax and whether he doctor agrees constipation is a side effect of that, well, it's your body and you know better than anyone what it's up to. I'm having side effects from risperidone that aren't on the list, but when they do these drug studies before they're approved, they don't test them on every single last person, they test them on a select group, so it's logical that some people will have side effects aren't on the official list. RE. constipation, which I'm enduring now thanks to both Effexor and risperidone: take some COLASE, it's a softener and it works, and it's a cheap over the counter easily found anywhere.

Sigh...I'm sure there was more to say but I don't want to overwhelm you with my ranting. I'm sorry you didn't have a good experience today, but I am glad you took the step of actually going to get the assessment done. I know it wasn't easy for you.

Chris said...

I'm sorry. I know how hard it is to work with a therapist you just don't like. I know I have never wanted to open up my life and my mind to a person who irritates or upsets me. I shut down, which defeats the purpose of the session. I wish you could have had a better doctor.

I think weaning yourself off the Seroquel is the best idea. I took it for one day, and it fucked up my world. I imagine it would be horrible to go cold turkey. My mother had flashes of temporary blindness when she wen on half her dose of Paxil.

I hope I do not come off acting like I know you. I have been reading your blog for a short time, and more than anything, I comment on what I read that reminds me of what I experience in my own life. I've had similar assumptions on my How to Kill Yourself Slowly post,and it is frustrating.

Miss Forthright said...

If people are making assumptions, BPD in OKC, then its because of how you're writing your blog. Both Suzanne and I write a lot about BPD and yet we don't get people coming to incorrect conclusions on ours.

It seems from these comments that other people think the thyroid issue might be a contributing factor yet you seem to take this as an insult.

It comes across in your blog that you seem to revel in being diagnosed with BPD. I'm sure you'll say I'm wrong about that but it has come across to others the same way.

It doesn't sound like your psychiatrist is a 'jackass' at all! He confirmed your suspicions, so whats the problem?

May I suggest that you re-write your reintroducing yourself post? You state in it that you diagnosed yourself from a book, with no mention of an official diagnosis, so how are people not going to get the wrong idea from that?

I'm sorry but your blog comes across as very 'poor me, poor me'. It sounds like you really enjoy getting sympathy from people.

BPD in OKC said...

Miss Forthright,

I have said this several times now, but I'll say it again. My thyroid problems may be an issue with the current spike in my depression, but it is not a cause of my long-term depression since it has been tested repeatedly and came back normal.

If you don't like the way my blog is, DON'T READ IT. No one's making you read it, so fuck off if you don't like it.